Friday, February 20, 2015

Why Hubbard Never Claimed OT Feats And The Rock Bottom Basis Of Scientology

The pattern in Scientology is incredibly - almost idiotically simple - confuse a person by some method even slightly then offer a "stable datum" for that confusion that is accepted. Here is the important part I just now got this exactly - the stable data is ALWAYS meant to be two things a lie and a method to induce further confusion that leads to accepting another stable datum, over and over. That is the con. The details vary and their effects and deserve tremendous study and dissection but the formula has only a few basic parts always. Confuse, offer solution to confusion give "solution" it is a lie designed to bring more confusion immediately or later. Sometimes there is a delay or apparent relief for a time before the confusion is back. Why ? Because if it does not add up if the truth was not part of the equation - it is all lies. Always was always will be. No truth ever, no workable anything, no miracles. One formula one conman one con . And by confusion I mean the confusion and reelingness and mental blankness associated with cognitive dissonance - it is a distinct feeling of being baffled or beffudled or overwhwelmed and can be from contradictory or surprising info, behavior or emotions - ANYTHING that creates or brings back those phenomena even slightly.

This is why Hubbard wanted people to not be given one thing to solve a problem - he wanted the person baited then drawn in forever.

That is all Scientology is  - a big con made bit by bit from small ones built up into a total gradual surrender of identity and self .The ironic thing is that the surrender comes for one purpose - to relieve the confusion by submitting to Hubbard's will to escape the confusion.

Have you ever been with someone, and you are thoroughly confused in a situation and they tell you to do something to change or end the situation and you do not understand how it will help or why but you just do it to get away from the unpleasant situation and the unpleasant feeling that trying to figure it out brings ? You not just follow instructions but also surrender judgment to avoid the confusion.

It seems logical - I cannot figure it out but this guy seems to know what to do so let us get this over with. It can work out and you may figure things out by observation in more simple and honest relationships and activities but that is not the case here. Not one bit. Hubbard is the absolute last person you should trust EVER. With anything. It is moronically simple and clear once you see it - confuse then lie, confuse then lie - have the lie set up further cooperation and confusion which leads to surrender and enslaving. Then they die, game over. But we can end the game now that we know it. I hope this is not confusing.

To continue, I am often asked how after 25 years in and most of that as a very close minded and fanatical extremist, how did I within a couple months come to totally reject everything From Hubbard and all his methods without reservation ?

I was asked about intelligence and my family background and other things. Not to disappoint you but people far more intelligent than me have taken decades to get to my level of rejection of Hubbard. That is not the reason. Part of it is that I could instantly find certain information I have discussed before but even now with that widely available others still often take longer - some much much longer to reject Hubbard's fraud.

Let's go back to how it is applied - Fred, our cult victim - is brought in on a point of cooperating to some degree, even slightly with the cult even if just by walking in or listening or reading something. He is doing what Hubbard directs. He has some confusion - it could be miniscule. What is Scientology ? Is it a science or religion or something else ? Is Dianetics a psychotherapy or just talking about your problems ? Fred can have any tiny confusion or even just a curiosity and the cult can make him confused - via evaluating a personality test or showing him a film with odd ideas and words. Just a little confusion is all it takes - and new ideas and words are inherently confusing. Fred gets directed to do something to alleviate the confusion, read a book, take a course, meet a staff member watch a video - SOMETHING.

The important thing is the person in confusion follows direction to handle it and it seems to be handled, but it often is not. Scientology is a confusing term as it sounds like science and technology combined but is promoted as an applied religious philosophy but that is a confusing way to say a religion as all religions in fact fit that definition if you break it down. And Hubbard goes to great lengths to add to that initial confusion and never clear it up. He gives long ambiguous and circular vague definitions and in his stories claims to tell you something and never gets around to telling you. That is to make a mystery but more than that to confuse you and then direct your attention and action within that confusion.

That is the con, that is why Hubbard never gave claims of OT feats ( aside from some rare ones in person ). That is why he would say "Ron, People ask where are you on the bridge ?" and he would NEVER answer. Certainly not as an idea in the doctrine that is disseminated at entry level. He wanted confusion via mystery to stir in an unresolvable way in his victim's mind to help control them. Mysteries require confusion - what is this ? Why is it this way ? How Ot is he ? What OT powers does he have ? What OT powers will I get ? These mysteries serve to direct and tie up attention and prevent examination of clear claims. Even a slight claim in Scientology doctrine would lead to - is this real and verifiable coming up . And the answer to that is not confusing-NO. No OT feats , no OTs no clears no workable technology EVER. That is the truth about Scientology. He confuses by talking about OT powers from way back down the track but promotes regaining abilities in vague language on the grade chart and in promotional materials intentionally so the victim wonders at it all in a directed manner - how OT can these courses make me ? When do I get telekinesis and to go exterior and heal people at will ? NOT do I get this but when and how much. Mysteries without answers are the opposite of critical thinking. And scientific methodology.

That is his method. In my mind whether it is from his love of hypnosis and it having confusion and repetition in it or rhetoric or somewhere else he arrived at 1) get attention 2) create confusion 3) lie to direct attention while pretending to resolve the confusion( without resolving the confusion as it is his basis for an entry point for exploitation - so he will never give it up ) 4) create another confusion requiring more attention and controlled action to pursue a claimed resolution that never comes 5) get more compliance from the victim and gradual increase via the first four steps over and over in confusion and compliance. And by compliance increasing I mean getting greater and greater degree of how willing and unthinking the victim is. How willing to do more and more extreme things and give more money and adulation and trust and even the victim's life and blind loyalty are they ? Never enough for Hubbard - he wanted gradual building to absolute devotion. With no other priorities even left at all. And the confusion is to grow too as he saw it holding this all in place. Some will look at his study of hypnosis and say the growing confusion acts hypnotically and some would say it creates a condition of hiding the cognitive dissonance and discomfort in the subconscious via trance logic so it gets directed via projection or other psychological defense mechanisms at any who bring the confusion back to the surface but that is not the main point and that is for those who pursue the finest details on this to consider. And the growth of confusion is vital as it leaves those who do realize something is not true or right to often take forever to unstick the lies one by one as they feel odd about the ideas and unsure what is untrue or not. They do not see the pattern and so are emotionally still prey to it and emotion influences thought and behavior.


Okay, so back to why I rejected Hubbard totally within a couple months : Scientology uses thousands of accumulated confusions to hold it in place, the auditing that is euphoria from hypnosis and the trances in course are all confused with genuine mystical experiences and many events are confused for others and the conditions are confused with laws for life when they are fallacies, as is the tone scale. These are to control thought and behavior and claimed as discoveries instead of fabrications and so confound and confuse. This is why Scientology has thousands - perhaps millions of contradictions in it.

I detail some in the Secret Of Scientology Part 1 :http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37580-THE-SECRET-OF-SCIENTOLOGY-PART-1

I realized in about January 2014 that there are no current OTs in the Sea Org and so can be none anywhere and so no clears and so no true technology as it all relied on the authority Hubbard is afforded as the clear and OT maker. All his credibility rests on those claims. I knew no matter how odd it felt or what doubts I had or trouble in reframing reality in a way that explained all my ideas and experiences that were there or came up - Hubbard was a pathological liar and from my experience dealing with unrepentent criminals, predators, narcissists and other devious manipulators before the cult life that you can never believe anything they say. So I resolved all confusions by being sure they were from being deceived somehow and pursued that course with great zeal.

The people who take so long or never recover despite any evidence do not see the confusions are what he used to bind the lies and forge the prison of belief. You can be confused by things - that is genuine so using a fake answer makes the directing of your attention off the confusion feel real if you do not look closely and see they are different. That is the mortar to make the certainty that Scientology has something real in it - your confusion hidden away is real but your being directed away is only momentary partial relief. That is sold as real but fake. That is why lies are always needed.

And to be even more exact on this. I recently came across material on narcissists and sociopaths and was stunned at how exactly accurate some of it is in describing Hubbard. Some descriptions have twelve or twenty traits and Hubbard was one for one on all of them. That warranted more examination and I found no matter what their education some of these models and theories show these people using confusing language and lies and contradictory stories to bewilder people and make them vulnerable to exploitation. Regardless of knowing hypnotism or mind control or even being able to read. It is first nature for a very, very small percent of people. So I considered Hubbard's use of confusion as having a possible deeper root than his study of hypnotism - though that provided many methods to attempt and combine. That prompted looking at Scientology anew and seeing all my experiences as fitting a pattern that is even simpler than earlier ones.

A narcissist or sociopath in some models gets victims to accept lies to confuse and control them and when clarity can come from truth they refuse to give it. I knew a person called Pat who would enthusiastically say "other people say this about you and that" and "everyone knows you do this wrong and have this to learn". I realized he was using gaslighting as revealing the hidden thoughts of others always involves a confusion as the thoughts might be truly what someone said or might not. They might have been changed in being passed on to be more harsh or less. The person might hate you or not really mean it and just have been angry about something else. So I told Pat to have the courage to say what was in his heart. He was stunned. He would come back in the days after and say "Do you want to know what is being said about you !?" and be agitated. I would calmly look right at him and say "As long as it comes from your heart". He always walked away deflated and dejected. He could only confuse with other people's claims as he had so little status all his complaints were laughed at openly. Everyone knew he lied and was selfish and cruel and so showed him no support, or his complaints either. He needed to be able to confuse to have power.

To help a Scientologist get them to look at what their ruin was when they came in. Many upon close examination realize this was never handled. The ruin is something Scientology somehow convinces you is ruining your life. And that Scientology can handle it. Scientology can do two things : make it appear something is ruining your life when it is not or find something you are unhappy about and pretend it can handle it. Either way there is a confusion as Scientology cannot improve you or your life but it can distract you from that as you are entrapped in a web of lies. It can confuse you about how or with what it can improve you as it is so big and contradictory always with hidden parts to reach for more and more. Always a more confusing subject as you get deeper into it and not less. I have met OT VIIIs and BC students who when being asked about their gains with the exact same terms used to describe their courses in Scientology doctrine pause, look stunned into anxiety, look around subtly and then relax and say "yes" in a monotone flat way.

They were not prepared for the question but could not outright reject it as it was in fact Hubbard doctrine. At the upper levels the promotional claims are avoided as a kind of mutual tacit consent that the gains never really occur and you accept less and less as you move up the bridge and compromise with your expectations more and more and finally just do courses out of habit after a while or to stay in the trances they provide to avoid unpleasant reality. I  was a person at the bottom of the bridge but so good at stating the non-confidential parts of their courses it stunned them.

The cognitive dissonance of the contrast between reality which I reminded them of and the claims they avoided as uncomfortable caused confusion to surface. that was where the anxiety came from. Their trance was threatened and they searched frantically in their mind for a stable datum - found one and reentered the trance and became calm and almost dead to me. I could almost see them thinking " How can this be ? I am supposed to be a demigod and cannot get my kids to listen or learn how to use a VCR ?", then they would find some Hubbard quote that justified their lack of abilities promised and go "Oh, yeah things are on a gradient so it is okay I have trouble with that "or "I need more training to be cause over that or word clearing or FPRD or..."


If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit
W.C. Fields

They muddy the water, to make it seem deep.
– Friedrich Nietzsche

Getting rid of a delusion makes us wiser than getting hold of a truth.
Ludwig Borne

For those that see the confusions as hidden in the mind :
Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate.
– Carl Jung
Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
Lao Tzu

The spell can be broken just by asking yourself, "Is what I'm believing true?"
—Byron Katie

Please let me know if this is adequate for you. I think he simply wanted to use mysteries as confusions to make people susceptible to influence and knew clear answers that did not lead to more confusion would kill the con. This also why he used contradiction - he wanted people to never know where they stood on anything and lean on him more and more as they became more unsure as the contradictions made the double bind utterly obscure all ideas and reach out to him to think, and decide for them. When we are little  children we trust our parents usually on many,  many matters and are at their mercy. He wanted that intensified and never lessened and clear unchanging answers - even false ones - would eventually provide clarity ( even temporarily ) and that could lead to critical thinking if the answer blew up. So he had to make it so none of the answers are clear and subject to strong direct examination. OT feats would be clear and subject to examination and comparison with other Scientologists and they would come up very short.

Also I think the greater and greater lies as one progresses are to induce confusion more and more as the earlier lies can build up a kind of level of acceptance like tolerance in alcoholics. So for the lie to  to work you need to up the incredulity and that is why the OT levels are so absurd - they have to be or people would wake up as they said "Okay I am on OT blah - I should be a lot better than this !"

For further reading I will list several references and the areas they elaborate on.


Regarding mind control in Scientology:

Insidious Enslavement: Study Technology
http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/01/i...ology.html?m=0

Basic Introduction To Hypnosis In  Scientology

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/01/b...is-in.html?m=0

Pissed It's Not Your Fault !!!

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/01/p...fault.html?m=0
The Critical Factor

The Secret Of Scientology Part 1 Control Via Contradiction

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/01/t...art-1.html?m=0

Burning Down Hell - How Commands Are Hidden, Varied And Repeated To Control You As Hypnotic Implants

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/02/m...-hell.html?m=0

Humbling Simplicity
http://mbnest.blogspot.com/201...
The Empty Well

Why Hubbard Never Claimed OT Feats And The Rock Bottom Basis Of Scientology

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/02/m...never.html?m=0


Regarding Hubbard's uses of loaded language with reversals of truth


Propaganda By Reversal Of Meaning In Scientology

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/03/p...ng-in.html?m=0

Regarding the narcissism and sociopathic tendencies in Ron Hubbard and his cult

Scientology's Parallel In Nature - Malignant Narcissism

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/05/s...ure_3.html?m=0

Regarding Dissociation

Exteriorization Versus Dissociation

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