Well , this seemed inevitable : was Hubbard genuinely like Hitler or is that an improper exaggerated fallacious comparison ?

After all in almost every situation the Hitler card is an extreme appeal to emotion ( well founded disgust at Hitler's hate and genocide ) from someone with no good arguments to present .


Almost every .

Now , I planned to read Mein Kampf and lots of esoteric occult texts before doing this thread but ran across some interesting stuff while doing another post and thought I would slap together something . Hopefully it will be better than GAT I and II .

I will just present some quotes for comparison .

“Kill, Destroy, Sack, Tell lie; how much you want after victory nobody asks why?” ― Adolf Hitler

Compare to : "In short a staff member can get away with murder so long as his statistic is up and can't sneeze without a chop if it's down. When people do start reporting a staff member with a high statistic, what you investigate is the person who turned in the report. In an ancient army a particularly brave deed was recognized by an award of the title of Kha-Khan. It was not a rank. The person remained what he was, BUT he was entitled to be forgiven the death penalty ten times in case in the future he did anything wrong. That was a Kha-Khan. That's what producing, high-statistic staff members are - Kha-Khans. They can get away with murder without a blink from Ethics.... And Ethics must recognize a Kha-Khan when it sees one - and tear up the bad report chits on the person with a yawn."

- L. Ron Hubbard, HCO PL 1 September 1965, "Ethics Protection"


“Great liars are also great magicians.” ― Adolf Hitler


  • THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them.L. Ron Hubbard


“By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.” ― Adolf Hitler

"Advanced Courses [in Scientology] are the most valuable service on the planet. Life insurance, houses,cars, stocks, bonds, college savings, all are transitory and impermanent... There is nothing to compare with Advanced Courses.They are infinitely valuable and transcend time itself." - L. Ron Hubbard speaking of his Operating Thetan Courses, Flag Mission Order 375

The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.” ― Adolf Hitler

AN ENORMOUSLY EFFECTIVE PROCESS FOR EXTERIORIZATION BUT ITS USE IS FROWNED UPON BY THIS SOCIETY AT THIS TIME. R2-.45 The Creation of Human Ability L Ron Hubbard
They are declared enemies of mankind, the planet, and all life. They are fair game. No amnesty may ever cover them. The criminal prosecution bureau is to find any and all crimes in their past and have them brought to court and a prison. Any sea organisation member contacting any of them is to use auditing process R2-45.HCO Ethics Order No. 30 (March 6, 1968) L Ron Hubbard
“Who says I am not under the special protection of God?” ― Adolf Hitler

You have no doubts about God. You never speculate about him. You are assured that whatever you do is right in his eyes. Your faith is so strong you could move mountains. You have deep trust and faith in God and have no fear of what he may do to you and your friends. He will never punish you. Some day you will merge with him and become part of the All when his bidding you have finished in these lives. Affirmations L Ron Hubbard

 God and your Guardian and your own power bring destruction on those who would injure you. Affirmations L Ron Hubbard

“It is not truth that matters, but victory.” ― Adolf Hitler

Life bleeds. It suffers. It hungers. And it has to have the right to shoot its enemies until such time as comes a golden age. The Responsibilities of Leaders L Ron Hubbard

…the foremost law, if one’s ambition is to win, is of course to win The Responsibilities of Leaders L Ron Hubbard


if you want to shine like sun first you have to burn like it.” ― Adolf Hitler

(u) That my code is to be all things a "magus" must be, that I am those things. That I burn high and bright and will last as a potent and brilliant force until well after this century has run. Affirmations L Ron Hubbard

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― Adolf Hitler

"NUMBER OF TIMES OVER MATERIALS EQUALS CERTAINTY. Student Hat L Ron Hubbard

“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.” ― Adolf Hitler

“CHINESE SCHOOL, as very few Westerners have ever seen a Chinese or Arab school in progress, it is very easy for them to miss the scene when one says Chinese School. The term has been used to designate an action where an instructor or officer, with a pointer, stands up before an assembled class and taps a chart or org board and says each part of it. A Chinese class sings out in unison (all together) in response to the teacher. They participate! Chinese School, then, is an action of class vocal participation. It is a very lively, loud affair. It sounds like chanting. It is essentially a system that establishes instant thought responses so that the student, given ‘2 x 2’ thinks instantly ‘4.’ You could teach the laws of listing and nulling, The Auditor's Code, axioms and so on in this way. There are two steps in such teaching. (a) the instructor taps and says what it is, then asks the class what it is and they chant the answer; (b) when the class has learned by being told and repeating, the instructor now taps with the pointer and asks and the class chants the correct answer. Anything can be taught by Chinese School that is to be learned by rote; (HCO PL 13 May 72)”
(from ‘Modern Management Technology Defined’* (released 1976))

“Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice.” ― Adolf Hitler


“Sparta must be regarded as the first völkisch state. The exposure of the sick, weak, deformed children, in short, their destruction, was more decent and in truth a thousand times more human than the wretched insanity of our day which preserves the most pathological subject.” ― Adolf Hitler

"A PERSON WHO IS CHRONICALLY ILL ALWAYS IS PTS." -- HCOB 20 Jan 72 L Ron Hubbard

"People who are physically ill are PTS *and are out-ethics* toward the person or thing they are PTS to!" -- HCOPL 3 May 72 L Ron Hubbard

“Conscience is a Jewish invention.” ― Adolf Hitler

Never regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrow. , Book: The Creation of Human Ability L. Ron Hubbard

“God's and beasts, that is what our world is made of.” ― Adolf Hitler

Degraded beings are about eighteen to one over Big Beings in the human race (minimum ratio). So those who keep things going are few. HCO POLICY LETTER OF 22 MARCH 1967 Alter-Is and Degraded Beings L. Ron Hubbard

Some thetans are bigger than others. None are truly equal Degraded beings, taking a cue from SP associates, instinctively resent, hate and seek to obstruct any person in charge of anything or any Big Being. HCO POLICY LETTER OF 22 MARCH 1967 Alter-Is and Degraded Beings L. Ron Hubbard


“The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category. ” ― Adolf Hitler

"The only answers would seem to be the permanent quarantine of such ['1.1, or covertly hostile, low-toned'] persons from society to avoid the contagion of their insanities and the general turbulence which they bring into any order, thus forcing it lower on the scale, or processing such person until they have attained a level on the tone scale which gives them value. Science of Survival L Ron Hubbard

In any event, any person from 2.0 down on the tone scale should not have, in any thinking society, any civil rights of any kind, because by abusing those rights he brings into being arduous and strenuous laws which are oppressive to those who need no such restraints." Science of Survival L Ron Hubbard
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"There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the tone scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the tone scale by un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow." Science of Survival L Ron Hubbard

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"The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line - a task which, indeed, is not very great, since the amount of processing in many cases might be under fifty hours, although it might also in others be in excess of two hundred - or simply quarantining them from the society. Science of Survival L Ron Hubbard

A Venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to leprosy in that country." Science of Survival L Ron Hubbard

 “He who would live must fight. He who doesn't wish to fight in this world, where permanent struggle is the law of life, has not the right to exist.” ― Adolf Hitler,

It's a tough universe. The social veneer makes it seem mild. But only the tigers survive -- and even they have a hard time. KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING L Ron Hubbard

We're not playing some minor game in Scientology. It isn't cute or something to do for lack of something better. KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING L Ron Hubbard

 This is a deadly serious activityKEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING L Ron Hubbard




The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.” ― Adolf Hitler

The whole agonized future of this planet, every Man, Woman and Child on it, and your own destiny for the next endless trillions of years depend on what you do here and now with and in Scientology. "Keeping Scientology Working" 7 February 1965 L Ron Hubbard

“I have been researching upper OT levels, and I can tell you this very plainly: If Scn doesn’t make it worldwide you’ve had it – yes, I mean you. One is not working for just this life. He is working for any future life at all”. HCO PL 14 March 1982 Financial Irregularities L Ron Hubbard


“A handful of us are working our guts out to beat Deadline Earth. On us alone depends whether your kid will ever see sixteen or your people will ever make it at all. A few of us see the world has got a chance if we don’t dawdle along the way. Our chance is a thin chance at best. We are working as hard as we can in Scientology. And, the only slim chance this planet has rests on a few slim shoulders, overworked, underpaid and fought – the Scientologist. Later on, if we make it, what will be your answer to this question? Did you help?” Five Years, 1967, Auditor Mag #9L Ron Hubbard


“The world has an optimistic five years left, a pessimistic two. After that, Bang or just a whimper. On us alone depends whether your kids will ever see sixteen or your people will ever make it at all. Our chance is a thin chance at best.We are working as hard as we can in Scientology.” Auditor Magazine 9, 1967 L. Ron Hubbard


The threat to us if we don’t make it is eternity. One could ask a staff member that refuses to get hatted how he would like to spend all of the coming eternity blind, in the dark and in pain. He would probably say he wouldn’t like that. But if we don’t make it, that’s what we’ve got and that’s what he’s condemning this planet to. He doesn’t realize that he himself, next life, is for it if we don’t make it. If staff in our orgs don’t get hatted, they’re condemning themselves and the planet to death a thousand times over. So understand that no matter how mild the environment might appear to you, we are actually fighting a full-scale war against ignorance and enslavement. But we do have the tech to win.” HCO PL 2 July 1984 HATTING AND THE ENVIRONMENT L. Ron Hubbard

Now to me the striking thing about the end group of quotes is that Hubbard almost constantly reminds Scientologist that their kids futures are in immediate fatal danger ! It would be funny if it did not cause mania and fanaticism . He follows the old " destroy the world to save it " formula other whack jobs go for . Oh yeah , so did Hitler . Hubbard never got his " safe base " meaning control of a country that he wanted but I am now convinced that if he did he would have commited genocide . That is what his role model Adolph did . The true immense similarities between these two psychopathic criminals is terrifying and shocking but the evidence is to me overwhelming . Yikes , I helped a pseudo scientific eugenics cult for 25 years . Good thing I do not believe in Karma but conscience inspires doing something about it for me . Geez and I felt terrible when I thought the OTO was the predecessor to Scientology . Doh ! The damned Nazis trump everybody else for pure evil . Thanks a lot Hub , sick bastard .