OT III And Beyond: Sources Plagiarized From Part 2

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Now back to the fun of that beloved classic Oahspe the insane cult text that preceded the OT levels and has , in my opinion , a lot of similarities to much of Dianetics and Scientology doctrine . Now before we go any further I need to confess something . The primary research for this investigation on the Oahspe was not done by myself , or Arnie Lerma or even Jon Atack . It was done by another who I believe studied much Scientology doctrine extensively and the entire Oahspe and I believe went over it with a fine toothed comb to find similarities to Scientology . I think an outstanding job was done and am presenting bits and pieces of what that person presented for your consideration . I am taking it on faith to a degree that the quotes are all authentic and have not verified each one personally . So keep that in mind .I am going to keep giving a fraction of this work in bite sized bits for digestion and when I am finished I will reveal the "hidden source" of this detailed research . Some of you may know - if you do please do not reveal it as I am doing it this way for a specific purpose .

Okay , so hear is some more stuff from Hubbard and parts of Oahspe to examine and see if they are similar to you . First a small collection of Hubbard quotes for anyone without an eidetic memory of all Scientology doctrine . ( which I must admit includes me )


from OT V –
When you talk about telepathy, there is a proximity factor. When a thetan is pressed straight up against another thetan very tight, total tactile communication, you get this type of mental transmission.
- Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 15 SEPTEMBER 1978, ISSUE I, NED for OTs Series 1, NED FOR OTs RD, THEORY OF, p2 section MENTAL TRANSMISSION
In NED for OTs you are actually handling, in the main, dormant BTs and clusters. These are not really alive enough to run Incident IIs and Incident Is on. They have different considerations, these dormant BTs and clusters, but they add up to being dead or below being dead. They’re in the state that FBI agents and government officials eventually wind up in when they aren’t already simply an animated dormant cluster. If people who are busy trying to smash up Scientology realized what they themselves were heading for, they would have a couple of other thinks…
- Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 15 SEPTEMBER 1978, ISSUE I, NED for OTs Series 1, NED FOR OTs RD THEORY OF, p3,4 section Dormant BTs and ClustersBut listen, you’re living in a universe which is crawling with this type of stuff. And planet Earth was a dumping ground to end all dumping grounds. Actually, the end of OT III is when those BTs and clusters that are easily put into communication are gone. It’s not when all BTs in the whole universe that ever will be, are gone.
You’ve never had any pcs like that unless you’ve worked in an institution and have seen some inmate living in a totally lifeless state, unaware of anything. NED for OTs handles this condition on BTs and clusters which existed without being suspected except for the occasional clue of a strange picture or a wild somatic.
- Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 15 SEPTEMBER 1978, ISSUE I, NED for OTs Series 1, NED FOR OTs RD THEORY OF, p2 section MENTAL TRANSMISSION
OT III is a solo audited level by the Scientologist, and is also done telepathically.
Instructions
”Locate by meter read or an area of pressure, a body thetan or group (cluster). Run Incident II.”
“Do not speak your commands. Just “intend” them. A BT controls easily. BT’s can be ARC broken by rough or careless auditing.“


here are several spoken mentions of “Xemu” on a Class VIII course lectures, one called Assists specifically.

And they had elected a fellow by the name of Xenu, ahhh, could be spelled X-E-M-U, to the supreme “rulah”, and they were about to unelect him. And he took the last moments he had in office to really “goof the floof.”

I formed the Sea Organization of OTs in order to have an area where a Scientologist could come, who could safely then walk through this last wall of fire. As the road to OT has to do with confronting and confronting life and confronting both the evil and the good thereof, the people of the Sea Organization are also becoming very experienced in the handling and confronting of MEST. This, however, is not part of the program for people we put through this last barricade.
Objections to learning the ultimate truth of this universe and what happened to it and why are so deeply implanted in people that it is necessary for any extremely advanced level to be relatively out of the common area and not planted on the crossroads of the world. So therefore the Sea Organization is simply organizing bases which are off the main track of man and in these bases we will be able to push people through and also to handle situations with regard to Scientology to help it get in Ethics on this planet.” (Ron’s Journal 67)



OT III is a solo audited level by the Scientologist, and is also done telepathically.
Instructions
”Locate by meter read or an area of pressure, a body thetan or group (cluster). Run Incident II.”
“Do not speak your commands. Just “intend” them. A BT controls easily. BT’s can be ARC broken by rough or careless auditing.“


here are several spoken mentions of “Xemu” on a Class VIII course lectures, one called Assists specifically.

And they had elected a fellow by the name of Xenu, ahhh, could be spelled X-E-M-U, to the supreme “rulah”, and they were about to unelect him. And he took the last moments he had in office to really “goof the floof.”

I formed the Sea Organization of OTs in order to have an area where a Scientologist could come, who could safely then walk through this last wall of fire. As the road to OT has to do with confronting and confronting life and confronting both the evil and the good thereof, the people of the Sea Organization are also becoming very experienced in the handling and confronting of MEST. This, however, is not part of the program for people we put through this last barricade.
Objections to learning the ultimate truth of this universe and what happened to it and why are so deeply implanted in people that it is necessary for any extremely advanced level to be relatively out of the common area and not planted on the crossroads of the world. So therefore the Sea Organization is simply organizing bases which are off the main track of man and in these bases we will be able to push people through and also to handle situations with regard to Scientology to help it get in Ethics on this planet.” (Ron’s Journal 67)

• Hubbard Clearly says XENU (one word) but then follows that with saying can be spelled Xemu.
• 5:15 – Collection points, boxed up and put on space planes.
• 6:11 – Billions and Billions and Billions of people boxed up, brought to earth from Coltus and then stacked around the major volcanoes of earth, then blown up with a hydrogen bomb
• 7:05 – Brought down after the explosion, packed up in processing points, put in front of big projection screeens (- to be “educated”).
• 7:53 – Boxed up again, the boxes were mixed with boxes from the alternative collection point – ie Las Palmas boxes mixed with Hawaii boxes and vice-versa.

The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet – 178 billion on average) by mass implanting..

He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken – in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there “packaged”.
His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the implants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. “They” are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert.

…Incident II is over 36 days long. Capture on other planets was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack (Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal officers who were (shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up.

from the mysterious benefactor

Sequence of Incident II for thetans on another planet –

1. Capture (being shot),
2. freezing,
3. transport to Teegeeack (sometimes via a relay point),
4. being placed near a volcano,
5. beginning implant up to “the pilot”,
6. various picture sequences,
7. the 7s and C.C. and OT II materials,
8. 36 days of picture implants which give a vast array of materials and three explanations for the bombing,
9. transport to Hawaii or Las Palmas for packaging up into clusters.

The pictures contain God, the Devil, angels, space opera, theaters, helicopters, a constant spinning, a spinning dancer, trains and various scenes very like modern England. You name it, it’s in this implant we call in its entirely “R6″ -

Also from this source

Just a few trillion years ago the whole confounded place was all blown up, the suns were disorganized, planets all thrown to hell and everything else. Well, the little guys with the airplanes showed up again, and they still could put up the theta traps for this boy.
Saint Hill Special Briefing Course lecture The Free Being 9 July 1963
Next some stuff for comparison .

Now for some more Oahspe goodness( er insane cult doctrine for anyone who irony is lost on ) thanks to the work of another in collecting a series of quotes .

Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXII:
I send wise angels down to them to deliver them out of darkness. And they come and bear the drujas away from thee, for thine own good and theirs.




Excerpts from BOOK OF WARS AGAINST JEHOVIH, Chapter II
Fifth: The labor of the Lord God shall be to prevent drujas returning to the earth to dwell with corporeans; to capture drujas on the earth and carry them off to the nearest Lord’s heavenly place, and there deliver them.

Hubbard may be assuming a god or god maker role for delivering us ( in delusions we are to accept ) from the Body Thetans whch are his version of Drujas.




Excerpts from Book of Fragapatti, son of Jehovih, Chapter III:
… Onward moved the float, the fire-ship, with its ten million joyous souls…

Speeding swiftly across the swamps of Ull, where seven corporeal stars were dismembered a thousand million years ago, now set with a’ji’an fields, and forming nebulae; whereto they bring, at times, the drujas, the dark spirits of other worlds, that they may take on the semblance of corporeal forms to complete their neglected good works in times past…

…Presently, now, the float neared the borders of Chinvat, the earth’s vortex, just beyond the orbit of the moon. Here Fragapatti halted for a day, sending swift messengers down to the lower heavens, and to the earth, to resolve where he should anchor during dawn.

And, the next day, he ordered the lights lowered, and now slowly moved toward the rolling earth; down, down, till he reached the third grade of plateaux from the earth’s surface, called Haraiti.

Here The Drujas come to Earth like the Body Thetans do for Hubbard .



Excerpts from Book of Fragapatti, son of Jehovih, CHAPTER XXI.
Nevertheless, there are many spirits in heaven who have not fulfilled either a spiritual or a corporeal life, and they can see but little and hear but little; for which reason I commanded that they should be called drujas, signifying, spirits of darkness.

… the Gods cannot deliver thee to My emancipated heavens, till thou hast served thy time in the lower heavens. One great light have I bestowed unto all men, that they may progress forever. … but to man only have I given progress.

This resembles the idea that if man does not progress spiritually at this point in the dwindling spiral in Scientology doctrine he will fall into a sate where he cannot recover .


Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXI:
4. And if a mortal have greater wisdom and strength of soul than the drujas, he ruleth over them, to a good purpose, reforming them and raising them up out of darkness and helplessness.
…When a mortal dieth, and he had dominion over his drujas, not only his spirit will rise to the first resurrection, but his drujas also, whereupon they are all delivered into light.

This resembles the idea of a person via the OT levels reaching a raising up of himself and them( the Body Thetans ) to be delivered into the light or enlightened . It has been pointed out by another that the result "Cause Over Life " may refer to the "life" of the Body Thetans as no longer holding back spiritual progress . This is especially amusing if one takes the position that Body Thetans do not exist but can be suggested to one enough to make them seem real and then by "erasing" them or "exorcising" them one actually removes a fake problem and is simply swindled . The great gain is removing a fake problem ! Just like the "clear" state - removing the fake reactive mind ! It is a suggestion that gets put in then taken out ! This pattern of con repeats all through Scientology .


My  writing mixed in with the quotes I may put in purple so it is easier to pick out .
I am going to next show some Hubbard quotes that relate to this for comparison .

HCL-21 ANATOMY OF THE THETA BODY 16 April 1952
Then you get what we call the genetic line. … has its own theta body, and as the Greeks said, the mind was in the stomach. it carried what you might call a theta body line in the stomach. That was its center of awareness. And when it was joined, it was joined in the head by the other lines and in short, you had a genetic line coming along and being joined by an already composite line.
Now the composite line had what you might call a stomach theta body, or a stomach soul. And this stomach soul and the genetic line soul are overlaid in the middle of the body.
…Precise you might say, a geographic position in the human body. There’s one on the right side, there’s one on the left side, of the central soul. There’s one behind the central soul and there’s one in the solar plexus area, and then the next two are outboard of the first two I’ve mentioned, so that you have the two outboard souls. Then the next one is the stomach soul with the two side inboard souls. So your right side would have two souls, your left side has two souls. And then you have the central soul forward and the central soul back. And in addition to all these there is the theta body of the genetic line which is evidently resident somewhere in the middle of the body. Ron Hubbard






Now for some evidence the idea of clusters was also taken from Oahspe ; if you are going to stael insane cult doctrine for a mind control cult , why not take it all ?



Clustering -
Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXII:
… Yea, the twain, not knowing it, will bind themselves together with great tenacity.

Excerpts from Book of Fragapatti, son of Jehovih, CHAPTER XXIX.
Hoab now turned his attention to the hosts of panic-stricken drujas, who were constantly forming themselves in knots…

Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XIV:
Such spirits as come to mortals purposely to inflict them with pain or misfortune shall be called evil spirits. And when they go in groups, having a leader, that leader shall be called beelzebub, that is, captain of evil (prince of devils).

See , the"knots" in Oahspe are the clusters of Body Thetans in the OT levels . It is quite simple , once you sweep away the rhetorical methods to confuse and enthrall you . IMO .

And for Hubbard's version :



Next more insane cult doctrine for comparison . 

from Oahspe :
Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XIV:
All the foregoing… shall be called drujas.

Now, behold, there were millions of angels in those days who knew no other life, but to continue engrafting themselves on mortals. And, when one mortal died, they went and engrafted themselves on another.

Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXI:
…They go not, for the most part, away from the mortal they inhabit whilst he liveth; nay, they have not wisdom or strength to go more than one length away.

…And they inhabit mortals and the houses that mortals dwell in. Some mortals have one or two of them; some a score; and some have hundreds of them.

This shows the idea of the Drujas or Body Thetans being attached to people and in varying quantities and that some humans have many to deal with - just like the OT levels .

One’s body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body.”


The number of body thetans varying – Section III Addition Tech, February 15, 1968, p. 5. Ron Hubbard


Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXI:
(5) But if the drujas have greater power than the mortal, then they pull him down in darkness, making of him a man to lust after the affairs of earth. Sometimes they help man to riches and great power; and if he have sons and daughters who are brought up in idleness and ease and luxury, then the drujas fasten upon them, leading them in their own way, of lust and debauchery, or hard-heartedness.


Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXI:

1. The flesh-eater is their delight; and the drunkard their great joy. The man of riches, and kings, and generals, and fighting men, and harlots, and soldiers, are great treasures to them.
2. … When mortals engage in war, slaying one another, the drujas have great merriment, taking part, by inspiring the mortals into the conflict.
3. The pleader (lawyer) is a favorite to them, for his vocation bringeth them in the midst of contention and craft and lying; he is to them a fortunate habitation.
4. The magician that worketh miracles and tricks is their favorite, for with him and through him, they can make themselves manifest. And when they show themselves, and are questioned as to who they are, they answer to any name that will please or flatter, even at times pretending to be Gods and Saviors!
5. The tattling woman that talketh of her neighbors is a good home for drujas; and if the woman be given to talk evil, they are rejoiced beyond measure. The man that is a great boaster, and liar, and slanderer, is a choice house for them to dwell in.
6. The cheater and defrauder, the miser and the spendthrift, the curser of Jehovih, the curser of the Gods, is like a citadel for them to inhabit

This in some people's opinions is very similar to Hubbard doctrine on ethics and what to label as holding back "case gain" . If a behavior is suggested as stopping progress spiritually that can be used to both control that behavior and imply the progress it stops is real . And failure to get the promised gains falls on the victim and not the technology .

This particular quote is similar to a concept from Hubbard :

“And when they show themselves, and are questioned as to who they are, they answer to any name that will please or flatter, even at times pretending to be Gods and Saviors!” Oahspe


HCL-21 ANATOMY OF THE THETA BODY
16 April 1952
Any one of them forms the foundation of what we called earlier in Dianetics, demon circuitry.
…The demon circuitry sets as individual and obsessions in the theta body, and these theta bodies being low toned and in a somewhat hypnotic and neurotic, at least, state, will copy and mimic other human beings which they observe or feel in their environment. And they will hold these imitations and they will hold on to the aberrations which they observe and they are very confused, normally. They’re extremely confused. They do not know there are any other theta bodies present, and they are just as willing to hurt a body as to help it.

Next a reference showing clusters in Oahspe like Scientology have leaders :


Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XIV:
Such spirits as come to mortals purposely to inflict them with pain or misfortune shall be called evil spirits. And when they go in groups, having a leader, that leader shall be called beelzebub, that is, captain of evil (prince of devils).

Hubbard also talks of this in early and later doctrine ;



Next hubbard using the "entities" which he also calls other names such as demon circuits in Dianetics and they become Body Thetans by OT III . All the same idea , hidden from DMSMH on through ALL of his doctrine .


Now riding over the top of this whole line all the way down through the universes to now evidently, is this first duo, the first double, the basic unit two. One of these theta lines is slightly senior to the other.
And that you will find, as the others peel off, is the native, controlling, natural you; and that’s what you recognize as you. You say, “Who am I?” well, it is the senior of the first duo.
And the conduct of the senior of the first duo is modified by the junior of those two, and is then modified by the additive lines on and on and on and on until the senior of those is quite normally asleep, gone.
As far as he’s concerned, he believes he’s dead or he has strange ideas about himself. His ideas of awareness, he’s sort of delegated everything to everything else. He’s in apathy, really. Homo, homo sapiens.
The central senior soul, the central senior theta line is itself completely capable of doing the entire job. And the person could only be considered, could be considered a clear only if he were
monitored and governed solely from this unity of one. And your second one might still remain, but it would be a junior position.
…[entities/theta bodies] Now those come in on the individual. They come in on the individual, but not unbidden. He asked for them. Or one of his, one of his entities asked for them authorizedly or unauthorizedly, out of a compulsion to join up. Therefore you have this, this stack that looks like this.
… And these entities in turn have enough compulsion on them to add in even more beings, so that you eventually wind up with a very large number.
…They are, actually have been gathered up in groups.
…You’re just sort of holding them trapped. And they’ve tried to go back, and go where they’re supposed to go between lives and they try to do this and they try to do that. Maybe they’re so groggy they don’t know enough to do this, and so on.
[h=- Hubbard College Lecture (HCL) #21- Anatomy of the theta body 16 April 1952 – see Research and Discovery volumes. Ron Hubbard]5[/h]
There are a tremendous number of these ideas that have similarities to the Oahspe and work of Crowley and earlier cults his work derived from as well . But the similarities to the Oahspe if you look in the right parts is so striking and so convincing I see no other logical conclusion than Hubbard stole a tremendous amount - even a vital cornerstone of the Foundation of Dianetics and Scientology from the Oahspe - if the materials I was provided are in fact accurate and I welcome you to authenticate them for yourself . ALL my statements about this rely on the accuracy of the info I have been given . I did not do the initial research , so I am taking this on faith to a degree .


Next more of the same .

Now you could say elements from Oahspe were cloaked and made into general concepts in Dianetics and Scientology until zeroing in on them for the OT levels .
Here is some more Scientology doctrine that is lifted from the Oahspe :
Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXI:
(7) On some occasion the drujas rule over their mortal, and his neighbors call him mad, and they send him to a mad-house, which is to them a city of delight. When mortals engage in war, slaying one another, the drujas have great merriment, taking part, by inspiring the mortals into the conflict.

Hubbard's similar doctrine :
You can reduce psychosis to this definition: Psychosis is the condition of an entity or “idle spirit,” you might say, moving in to control, but being stuck on the track.
But there is your basis on psychosis, and also on neurosis…
- Anatomy Of The Theta Body an L. Ron Hubbard lecture 16 April 1952 Ron Hubbard

Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXI:
But if the drujas have greater power than the mortal, then they pull him down in darkness, making of him a man to lust after the affairs of earth. Sometimes they help man to riches and great power; and if he have sons and daughters who are brought up in idleness and ease and luxury, then the drujas fasten upon them, leading them in their own way, of lust and debauchery, or hard-heartedness.

…The man of riches, and kings, and generals, and fighting men, and harlots, and soldiers, are great treasures to them. The pleader (lawyer) is a favorite to them, for his vocation bringeth them in the midst of contention and craft and lying; he is to them a fortunate habitation.




Ron Hubbard


Now for comparison the Oahspe :

Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXIII

1. On the battle-fields of the earth were hundreds of millions of spirits in chaos, still fighting imaginary battles, not knowing their bodies were dead; knowing naught but to curse and fight; roving over the battle-fields, and would not away, save by capture and being carried off.

1. Day and night At’yesonitus and his armies labored, ceased not nor rested, but in good method went right on, filling all the lowest place of heaven with their transport boats of fire.
2. And the boats sped hither and yonder without ceasing, loaded in their ascent with the screaming, frightened drujas, all under guard, and duly preserved against accident or harm by the wise angels over them.
3. Some drujas were easily captured and carried away; some weak, helpless and harmless; but hundreds of millions of them mad, and most desperate; some evil, fearful in desperate oaths, and foul talk, and dangerous withal.
4. But others were most pitiful in their love to linger with their mortal kindred; mothers, whose children dwelt on the earth; and children spirits, whose mothers dwelt on the earth. To separate them and carry away such drujas was a most heart-rending task, requiring God-like souls to accomplish it.

But when My wise angels look upon them, and perceive they are carrying each other down in darkness, then shall they be torn asunder; and the spirit shall be taken away and provided for ultimate resurrection, and only permitted to visit the mortal kin under due guardianship



This has several ideas that are worked into Scientology at different points .


Hubbard — Saint Hill Special Briefing Course lecture The Free Being 9 July 1963 –
Just a few trillion years ago the whole confounded place was all blown up, the suns were disorganized, planets all thrown to hell and everything else. Well, the little guys with the airplanes showed up again, and they still could put up the theta traps for this boy. Ron Hubbard

The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet – 178 billion on average) by mass implanting..

…Capture on other planets was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack (Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal officers who were (shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up.

…

Sequence of Incident II for thetans on another planet –

1. Capture (being shot)

Hubbard even worked this into his definition of a suppressive person :

Suppressive Person – a person who suppresses other people in his vicinity. A suppressive person will goof up or vilify any effort to help anybody and particularly knife with violence anything calculated to make human beings more powerful or more intelligent. The whole rationale of the suppressive person (SP) is built on the belief that if anyone got better, the SP would be for it as the others could overcome him then. He is fighting a battle he once fought and never stopped fighting. He is in an incident. Present time people are mistaken by him for past, long-gone enemies. Therefore, he never really knows what he is fighting in present time, so just fights.
[h=- Modern Management Technology Defined. Los Angeles: Church of Scientology of California Publications Organization United States, L. Ron Hubbard, 1976. Ron Hubbard]5[/h]The drujas similarly fight long after battles are , over require spiritual enlightenment to escape this and are captured in "the wall of fire " VERBATIM

Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XV:
…And after this he returned to Gessica, chief God…

Gessica had the vessels constructed with walls of fire around the margins, to prevent the drujas escaping. And there were built in all four hundred vessels, each capable of carrying one hundred million drujas.

…The manner of driving the drujas into them was by leaving part of the fire-wall open, and by fire-brands in the ethereans’ hands cutting off sections of drujas from the hells. In this way the ethereans drove the drujas into the vessels, whereupon the doorway in the wall of the ship was closed.

And then the workers of the ship put it under way and carried them up to Hao-yusta, where the Gods and Goddesses received them, placing the drujas in pens, walled with fire, where they could be treated and restored to reason, after which they were to be liberated in installments…

Similar Hubbard doctrine :


Class VIII lecture “Assists” -

• 6:11 – Billions and Billions and Billions of people boxed up, brought to earth from Coltus and then stacked around the major volcanoes of earth, then blown up with a hydrogen bomb Ron Hubbard

Next the drujas and Body Thetans get packed for their long journey to earth !

Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXIII

1. Jehovih said unto Yussamis: Thou shalt assort the drujas; the peaceful to themselves; the dumb to themselves; the mad, the chaotic, and all other of My afflicted ones; provided sections and places for them. And teachers and nurses and physicians; for they shall be delivered out of darkness also. Yea, every one of them shall become as a star of glory in heaven.

Here we have sections - similar to the OT courses being in sections .

1. – Class VIII lecture “Assists” -
2. 7:05 – Brought down after the explosion, packed up in processing points, put in front of big projection screeens (- to be “educated”).
3. 7:53 – Boxed up again, the boxes were mixed with boxes from the alternative collection point – ie Las Palmas boxes mixed with Hawaii boxes and vice-versa.

Main OT III issue
…taken – in boxes …and there “packaged”.

Incident two issue Ron Hubbard


Ron Hubbard

Now for more Oahspe to show similarities to the Hubbard dcotrine regarding clusters and handling of them in Scientology .


Excerpts from Book of Fragapatti, son of Jehovih, CHAPTER XXIX.
… Thus proceeded Hoab and Athrava: First walling the place around with fire, so none of the druj could escape, and then dividing them into thousands of groups, by means of fire also; then creating subjective bodies for them, to which they bound themselves willingly, and which prevented them from fastening to one another.

(This is what drujas call re-incarnation in another world.) And whilst they were thus provided temporarily by their teachers, and governors, and nurses, many of them imagined themselves to be kings and queens and high priests, and even Lords and Gods!

Hubbard doctrine :





This insane stuff is lifted from the Oahspe ideas on reincarnation of the drujas and so forth

Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XV:
…And then the workers of the ship put it under way and carried them up to Hao-yusta, where the Gods and Goddesses received them, placing the drujas in pens, walled with fire, where they could be treated and restored to reason, after which they were to be liberated in installments…

The liberating in installments look a lot like the OT levels with the repeated exorcising of Body Thetans at different levels to me .






Excerpts from Book of Lika, son of Jehovih, Chapter XXII:
… Yea, the twain, not knowing it, will bind themselves together with great tenacity.

But thou shalt deliver them apart nevertheless, by stratagem, or persuasion, or with a strong hand. And when thou hast them separate, thou shalt surround the drujas with flames of fire, and carry them off to the boats, which are bulwarked with fire. And thou shalt deliver them in the places My Son, Yussamis, hath ready prepared for them.

This is similar to how they are transported to earth and that they are exorcised in ways that seem to fit the description above .

So , does anybody else think Hubbard stole a lot of the OT levels from the Oahspe yet ? Or am I alone on this ? I have more coming up but think I have given you plenty to consider for tonight .

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