The Clear Contradiction

   


     



This post is a sequel to the Secret of Scientology Part 1

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...NTOLOGY-PART-1

And properly belongs within it BUT to make it easier I splintered this off for brevity for the readers

I know some of my posts are the length of small books and this one will not be short or the easiest to get so I want it separate to get the attention it needs and be seen as a subtopic within the area it fits in .


In that earlier post I tried to lay out how contradiction works to establish the confusion and then trance logic giving Hubbard control of a victim and making them unable to think critically and independently on a topic .

I also tried to show lots of Scientology doctrines many contradictions that are there in a clear and understandable manner .


Here I will focus on one of the very most contradicted and confused ideas in Scientology and Dianetics that hides the bad results and no results often for victims for life .


It is a lynchpin to the whole con even working at all and has been since day one book one .







The clear con .





The term is defined and redefined over and over and even by SOS and many times in Scientology proper .


So the victims are confused and cannot see either the contradiction OR look critically at the failure to produce results .


It further is the measuring stick for releases - not quite clears and OTs clears plus some more .


By having many ideas and states be defined with it within their definitions it ties its ambiguity and contradiction and trance logic to understanding them .


One lie ( really a body or circle of lies on a theme to utterly confuse on it ) spreads by mental association to poison thinking on a whole interlocking web that ALL strengthen each other .


Now some can say wait clear is as simple idea !


Well , that is a good point for debate .







I will attempt to show just how simple it really is and if you feel it is that way after I have presented my evidence please speak up - if you have evidence of equal strength to the contrary .

Let us start with quotes from Hubbard to show what he told folks : NOTE all quotes herein taken from Michel Snoeck and his site .

NOTE to the best of my knowledge ALL these quotes are 100% lies and should always be seen as such .

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from DMSMH
“Dianetically, the optimum individual is called the clear. One will hear much of that word, both as a noun and a verb, in this volume, so it is well to spend time here at the outset setting forth exactly what can be called a clear, the goal of dianetic therapy.

A clear can be tested for any and all psychoses, neuroses, compulsions and repressions (all aberrations) and can be examined for any autogenic (self-generated) diseases referred to as psycho-somatic ills. These tests confirm the clear to be entirely without such ills or aberrations. Additional tests of his intelligence indicate it to be high above the current norm. Observation of his activity demonstrates that he pursues existence with vigor and satisfaction.” LRH


A Scientology Clear would be able to confront the physical universe, other bodies, his own body, other minds, his own mind and other beings—without trimmings.” LRH (from ‘Ability 52’, [early Aug 57] “Confronting”).
Ability 67’, [mid Feb 58]: “Today's clears are quite clear. The state is finite, precise and stable. We ought to be able to say so.”





In ‘Ability 71’, [Mar-Apr 58] we then find that it turned to: [TABLE]
“SCIENTOLOGICALLY, the optimum individual is called the clear. One will hear much of that word, both as a noun and a verb, so it is well to spend time here at the outset setting forth exactly what can be called a clear, the goal of Scientology processing.”



“To flatten an incident Dianetically, you only erase it. To flatten it Scientologically you run it until pc has it back again fully and is total cause over it (you run it after it has erased).” LRH
(from HCOB 7 Apr 60 “A New Summary of Auditing”)

“The 1947 scale of wins was this: Get a pc to have pictures by any device. Get the pc to erase light locks. Get the pc to be more and more able to handle gradiently heavier bits of bank*. When pc was fully confident, pc was clear.” LRH
(from HCOB 7 Apr 60 “A New Summary of Auditing”)



HCOB 7 Apr 60 “A New Summary of Auditing” that says: “To flatten an incident Dianetically, you only erase it. To flatten it Scientologically you run it until pc has it back again fully and is total cause over it (you run it after it has erased).” LRH.

I have just made a breakthrough in finding what a clear really is. ...




1965: This year marked the occurrence of 2 very significant developments: [TABLE]
Firstly with the release HCOB 2 Apr 65 “The Road to Clear” it was stabilized stating about the Clear as described in the book ‘Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health’ that:
“This is a simulated clear. We called it a ‘keyed out clear’ quite properly. But it isn't a clear I know now, it's a RELEASE. The person has been released from his reactive mind*. He still has that reactive mind but he's not in it. He is just released from it.” LRH

[/TD]
This determined what a Dianetic Clear actually was. It set its boundaries.


“We know all the attributes of Clear and Operating Thetans.

In the history of this universe there has never been a true Clear or true OT.

Every Clear ever encountered in this universe was a Keyed-out Clear—a Release. He still had all his bank, GPMs and engrams. They were simply keyed out and not influencing him.

We have known that for some time.” LRH
(from HCOB 18 Jun 65 “Clear and OT Behaviour”)




the 26th September 1965 Grade Chart noted:
“By Scientology AUDITING and individual can attain new states of Existence called RELEASE and CLEAR. ... The quality of processing has been upgraded in 1965 as higher states have been found. Clear today is a higher state than previously. We once called ‘Clear’ what is today called RELEASE. Clear was higher than was first thought.”


“That we are today making a TOTAL Clear as well as Operating Thetans is completely out of comparison with what Dianetics was trying to do.



“And that would be a Release. And in the early days this was so good that a Dianetic Clear—we're making them now, we're making Dianetic Clears again. I've gotten two or three thank-you despatches and things like that. We're making Dianetic Clears. But of course a Dianetic Clear is actually merely a Release and unfortunate, but they strangely enough have approximately the same manifestations that are described in Book One.” LRH
(from Saint Hill Special Briefing Course lecture #75, renumbered 1991: #438 “Releases and Clears”, given on 16 Aug 66)





“In 1966, after years of research and development, Ron finalized the Clearing Course at Saint Hill Manor in England. This was a breakthrough of almost unimaginable magnitude. Since the first publication of ‘Dianetics, The Modern Science of Mental Health’ in 1950, Ron had communicated about the State of CLEAR where people freed from the influence of the Reactive Mind. However, up to 1966 the states attained were temporary as the person was only keyed-out Clear or Release.

“You are a Clear. Well done and congratulations.



“BASIC BASIC—This belongs in Scientology. It is wholly beyond the scope of Dianetics. It means the most basic basic of all basics and results in clearing. It is found on the Clearing Course.” LRH (from HCOB 23 Apr 69 “Basic Definitions”). [TABLE]

“When you put somebody back to the level of Operating Thetan you are putting somebody back who is different than any being who has ever been on the track - there's never before been an OT with experience.
Never before in the history of the universe has there been anything but a released OT, a being who is temporarily exterior and feels great but sooner or later - within minutes or centuries - his bank catches up with him and he falls on his head.” LRH
(from ‘Clear News 3 (AOLA edition)’, 21 Nov 69, page 1)








“... Well, now of course there is such a thing as a Dianetic Clear, but it is not a Scientology Clear and the person has not gone Clear until he has been on the Clearing Course in Scientology. ...
And that is a Dianetic Clear and you move on up the line and you hit a Scientology Clear and actually the type of Clear which you are looking for is a Scientology Clear and not a Dianetic Clear.”

L. Ron Hubbard


(from Grand National Convention special lecture “Expanded Grades and Training”, given on 21 Jun 70)




“On the Clearing Course you don't become released from your bank or make a small part vanish–you erase all of it!” (from periodical ‘Clear News 73 (AOLA edition)’, [ca Mar/Apr 72], page 4)




HCOB 24 Sept 78 III “Dianetic Clear” that stated that: [TABLE]
“The state of Clear can be achieved on Dianetics. I have now determined there is no such thing as Keyed-Out Clear. There is only a Dianetic Clear and he is a Clear.”

‘LRH ED 301 Int’, 17 Dec 78 “Ron's Journal 30” reports about ‘Dianetic Clear’ [TABLE]
“DIANETIC CLEARS. Undoubtedly the BIG news that resounded around the world in ’78 was the huge numbers of people who were discovered to have made Dianetic Clear. In 1950 and on, people used to ask ‘Where are all the Clears?’ Well, they were right there! In 1978 I discovered that it was deadly to go on running Dianetics on a Dianetic Clear. Such gave the semblance of no case gain! (Naturally.) So when I announced that running Dianetics on a Dianetic Clear was forbidden, people began to look around and lo and behold they had been making Clears with Dianetics and had been going right on by it! The pc who had made it wasn't declared Clear and further Dianetics didn't work on him (naturally). So in 1978, after my announcement, auditors began to check and listen to the pc and found they had real Clears all over the place!”
(from ‘LRH ED 301 Int’, 17 Dec 78 “Ron's Journal 30, 1978—The Year of Lightning Fast New Tech”)

You see, in 1981 we say: “Scientology Grades do not make Clears, even though they sometimes exteriorize a person” (from HCOB 12 Dec 81 “The Theory of the New Grade Chart”) and say “Scientology lower grades sometimes exteriorize a person but to date, to my knowledge, have never produced a Clear: That was not their purpose.”(HCOB 14 Dec 81 “The State of Clear”)

We have not even mentioned the existence of a variety of lectures given by L. Ron Hubbard that also clash with it.





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Now that brings a lot of issues up about clears and Dianetic lears and Scientology clears .

I will now show a chart that was made by another and then a link to HIS site ; actually ALL the above quotes were picked from his site and edited both for brevity and to try to get chronological order .

So please give him credit for HIS work and efforts . Again it is Michel Snoeck

Brief summary of the changes and new approaches:

(a) The Dianetic Clear[/TD]
- The state of Clear can be achieved on Dianetics, it is not just a Release.
HCOB 24 Sept 78 III “Dianetic Clear”


(b) The Scientology Clear [/TD]
- Claiming that a Clear is a Dianetic Clear may implicate that a Scientology Clear may not exist. Confusion concerning what a Scientology Clear actually is as the term continues to be used in references that are considered valid today.[/TD]
HCOB 24 Sept 78 IV (Confidential) “The State of Clear” &
HCOB 29 Nov 78R (Revised 31 Mar 81) “Dianetic Clear Attests”


(c) The ‘Clear Cognition’
- Reintroduction of not running Power etc after having the state of Clear certified.
- Reintroducing the approach that originating that one might be Clear suffices to get it certified.
[previously in 1970 these were introduced by others, as soon as LRH found out about it it was immediately cancelled and taken out of use]
HCOB 24 Sept 78 III “Dianetic Clear”

d) The ‘Keyed-Out Clear’[/TD]
- There is no such thing as Keyed-Out Clear.
HCOB 24 Sept 78 III “Dianetic Clear”

(e) The ‘Natural’ Clear
- Confirmed to actually exist first in March 1979, after repeated and categorical statements from LRH that there never have existed any Clears.

HCOB 5 Mar 79 “Dianetic Clear False Declares”
SH Spec 75, 6608C16 “Releases and Clears” &
HCO PL 17 Jan 67 “An Open Letter to All Clears” &
‘Clear News 71 (AOLA edition)’, [ca Jan/Feb 72]


‘Dianetic Clear Special Intensive’ (DCSI)
- Introduced and released since May 1979
HCO PL 1 May 79 “Dianetic Clear Special Intensives” &
HCOB 2 May 79 I (Limited Distribution) “Dianetic Clear Special Intensive” &
HCOB 3 May 79 “Dianetic Clear Special Intensive C/S and Auditor Requirements” [/TD]
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Here is his site which has far more content on this - I do not have the same beliefs he does but found that he collected a lot of relevant info .

http://wiseoldgoat.com/papers-scient...o3a_clear.html

And there are other issues to look at as well , like in one place clears and OTs are said to have NEVER existed in this universe before Scientology and Dianetics and another they are rare but do happen .


Okay contradiction .


In some places clears cannot possibly happen with Dianetics and NEED Scientology processes ( that change and are added to constantly from about 58 - 66 and ALL are needed to make clears so customers keep PAYING for more training and auditing ! )

To get the alleged results they ALREADY got !

And the methods are contradicting that earlier methods were supposed to make the nebulous state and we bounce from Dianetic clear only being a release by erasing but more being required and then it really being clear again in 78 but how could this be ?


Look , the mind is supposed to bounce back and forth from the mystery of what is Scientology ( never fully explained ) to what is Dianetics ( also not explained ) and not ever see both are just a pack of lies ( fraud ) and by pretending to have two subjects at polar opposites - a fake science and a fake religion or spiritual practice or philosophy or applied religious philosophy he totally paralyzes a mind with confusion and contradiction until you just give up .

You accept the verbosity fallacy ( if it is a lot of info it must be true and well researched )

And take it on faith ( appeal to emotion as we want improvement to be possible and attainable )

And shut down and keep down your independent and critical thinking burying the contradiction !





This is why many wander in a blind imbecilic trance for decades - they are enthralled by fascination with this meandering gibberish and mistake confusion with awe at deep profound mystical knowledge !

The closest Hubbard got to that was making people's free will ( in the conscious critical factor ) and money disappear !


By having the contradictory subjects mingle and sometimes SEEM to do the same things and at others SEEM to be quite separate and different he leaves the poor victim not knowing up from down and adopting the stable datum of slavish submission to authority as the solution .

He is also the authority !



Look when a Scientologist has no scientific answer he can say this is a religion and those statements are very offensive and bigoted about my faith to push aside examination critically and when he gets religious queries or doubts he can say we are different because we have a scientific method and results that are validated to show our superiority to other religions .


Great except both are lies !!! Oopsies !


This contradiction on the clear defintions gets tied to the very names of the practices as the goal of Dianetics is the clear !


So that carries over to EVERYTHING in the practices as all the terms are in the mental framework or built on the foundation of and in the universes of Dianetics and Scientology .

And Scientology is defined as senior to life and encompassing more than life and knowledge so after a time and heavy indoctrination a Scientologist can see ALL things and concepts within a kind of foggy wobbly haze of not quite right ideas and be constantly looking in anxiety for the deeper meaning or clamoring for clarification that is only " solved " by the euphoria Scientology sells for momentary hypnotic release in the safe submission to an auditor or Hubbard in a tape or book or course .


He is put in a not quite right deluded state were dissonance buried by denial and dissociation STILL generates unpleasant cognitive distortions and stress even mania and depression but that can be escaped momentarily in the deeper trances Scientology keeps selling .

It creates the discomfort in the unconscious to grow and feed the submission which in turn makes a craving for release and with everything defined in Scientology terms the tech and source are NEVER suspected so the only solution is to become addicted to the deep trances that need total blind submission and cost money , obedience and identity .


Pretty nice of " the greatest friend to mankind " ? Huh .


I have not even got to all the issues relating to contradictions on clear and Scientology and Dianetics because Hubbard INTENTIONALLY was always changing them to keep baffling them with bullshit .

He knew after a time that both repetition and confusion are cumulative forces - in other words you can greatly increase their force by adding more and more to them - like Newtonian gravity .

So he just piled them to the stars .

Incidentally for those who say " hey , David Mayo did all this stuff ! " the timeline looks wrong AND he did not make TAPES and it just does not cover a fraction of the issues .

Additionally stuff that Hubbardians blame Mayo for remained unchanged in doctrine LONG after Mayo was excomunicated - like DECADES .

So I call bullshit on that as well .

With the no results and bad results and knowledge on rhetoric , loaded language , thought stopping and channeling and projection and denial , the confusion method and repetition and the double bind and trance logic the only plausible explanation is pure fraud .


The vast , vast growing mountain - no PLANET of evidence supports ALL Hubbard " tech " as pure garbage
and there is not one scintilla of a wisp of proof of any kind of scientific nature to redeem and vindicate either Hubbard or his lies .


Please add any relevant info you know to support or refute this - I have far less auditor training than some BUT you can see I am not afraid to do research .


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