I think a lot of OT VIIIs are similar to George "batshit crazy" Baillie and not just the British ones. I have known several myself and the unreal and almost manic nature of the behavior they exhibit is legendary in the US and around the world. I have some stories and heard quite a few good ones that show this has been going on with some folks from Scientology going way back to the fifties for a few of them . Obviously the people in the fifties were not OT VIIIs but some had been convinced of states like Cleared Theta Clear Even beyond the Operating Thetan levels comes the "Cleared Theta Clear", a godlike state which Hubbard describes this way:
"A thetan who is completely rehabilitated and can do everything a thetan should do, such as move MEST and control others from a distance, or create his own universe; a person who is able to create his own universe or, living in the MEST universe is able to create illusions perceivable by others at will, to handle MEST universe objects without mechanical means and to have and feel no need of bodies or even the MEST universe to keep himself and his friends interested in existence". From Scientology 8-8008, pg 114 (1st ed), pg. 151 (1990 ed.)Scientology 8-8008 is a Scientology book by Ron Hubbard published on December 1, 1952
I have met an OLD time Scientoloigst who TOLD me he was a Cleared Theta Clear and he was CERTAIN he had the abilities promised - despite aging like a human and having money troubles and family troubles and no demonstrable increase in sanity or competence and... you get the idea.
I remember one in particular who I am sure said he was a Cleared Theta Clear and I guess Hubbard or some other high level auditor convinced this guy that he fully attained this exalted state . I did not understand it and he insisted I take him VERY seriously .
I did not know at the time in the 1988- 1992ish period some of the old Scientologists who felt they were "full OT" or something like that felt that unless you were Hubbard or someone else they respected you had no authority over them and anything you released was beneath their level as attained under Hubbard . Lots of pretentious posturing once you realize none of the states Scientology promises are real !
Only years later would I understand this . Really only from 2014 on as I left the cult .
The OT VIIIs I met often has the same delusional mindset complete with the idea that they had restored their godhood and everything they experience is their intention and it cannot be any other way - despite any evidence that does not support this claim . This is confirmation bias taken to the highest level .
It is designed to destroy their ability to tell truth from fiction regarding their own memory and intentions fully - it is called truth revealed but is delusion fulfilled . It is meant to obliterate any remaining objective reason and critical and independent thinking until death as it is the last OT level and its purpose is to conceal the con and never wear off . If you study hypnosis and thought reform and psychology and the exact route of the bridge and the commands executed on the OT levels from III up this is where you are headed. You are meant to be permanently confused and "solve" this confusion with submission to Hubbard and now DM and to assert Hubbard's claims until you die .
I think these "OT"s are hyper and manic because their "OT" cognition must be the same as their "Clear Cognition" as in "I'm mocking up my reactive mind in PT", then the airplane pilot saying "He's mocking it up" and on to the statement of the state of OT which would then be "I'm mocking up my OT-ness".
ReplyDeleteSo they're literally frothing at the mouth as they attempt to demonstrate their OT-ness concurrent with their frenzied attempt to create the abilities as best they understand them...